Alexis Madrigal praat met Hélène Landemore en Alexander Guerrero over democratie en loting.
'Political corruption. Government shutdown battles. Legislative gridlock. Sometimes, it seems like ordinary citizens picked at random might do a better job governing than elected officials. In fact, that’s exactly the kind of lottery-like political system that is now gaining traction in academia. As part of Forum’s “Doing Democracy” series, we’ll talk about “lottocracy” and other ideas that seek to improve democracy and put ordinary citizens at the center of political power.
Guests:
Alexander Guerrero, professor of philosophy
Rutgers University - New Brunswick [New Jersey]
author of the forthcoming book, "Lottocracy: Democracy Without Elections"
Hélène Landemore, professor of political science
Yale University [New Haven, Connecticut]
author, "Open Democracy: Reinventing Popular Rule for the Twenty-First Century" '
Landemore, over democratie in het oude Athene [9:52]: 'And later they found out, through trial and error, that that was a little bit too open to capture, these open assemblies, so they moved some of the legislative power away from those open assemblies towards another type of randomly selected body, that was in charge of making certain laws. And so I think it's interesting that in fact as time went on they moved more and more to a sort of lottocratic model.'
Guerrero spreekt zijn voorkeur uit voor een twintigtal gelote burgerkamers die parallel aan elkaar werken voor de uiteenlopende beleidsterreinen [19:50]
Landemore [50:06]: 'I am a big fan of experts, when they are put in the proper place. And their proper place is to be, as I always say: on tap, and not on top. Meaning they should be at the service of citizens, and not in the position to tell them what to think.'
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